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Session Start: Sat Jan 11 15:47:30 2003
(NancyL) Hello all! I have no agenda today and will be collecting on during these few minutes ahead of the chat.
(IdolHarobed) That's good too. Hehehe. But in fact PX will not get faster than light. Maybe about 1%.
(NancyL) ANNOUNCEMENT: Jan 10th Images just now available from the web: ../teams/rogue/shavas26.htm
(IdolHarobed) hehehe
(Alankila) Still using sum processing rather than median processing. Why? Has it not been made abundantly clear that summing is not the most optimal way to combine many images into one?
(Alankila) little worms all over the picture. Which one of these is Planet X?
(JWilliam) AlanKilla: Who you Summating to?
(NancyL) Alankil, where are YOUR images and web site?
(Alankila) JWilliam: not "who" but "what". The images should be combined with summation.
(JWilliam) Thank you for your advice Alankilla
(MrOdd) the mere act of possessing and displaying those images hardly gives them any kind of credibility, Nancy
(MrOdd) you should know that
(Alankila) NancyL: I have written a small web page at http://www.saunalahti.fi/~s7l/cgi-bin/zeta.cgi -- there aren't any pictures, unfortunately.
(Alankila) It's also sadly lacking in completeness.
(JohnJ) Nancy, where are your images?
(Alankila) Happy to oblige.
(NancyL) Mr Odd, the mere act of saying nothing is THERE does not make it so.
(Bearz) Nancy...you're doing a fine job.
(Alankila) JWwilliam: my Freudian slip :-) meant combining with "median"
(Anon) or vice versa
(NancyL) Alankila, that's a start, anyway.
(Alankila) Thanks.
(StevenB) Nancy, Did Nasa cause the Apollo fire in 1967 killing the three astronauts to hush them up ?
(Obany) okay folks, ask normal questions ... aks questions about the transformation, pole shift, Hybrids, the awakening ... this is not #astronomy or whatever
(Jeremy) Nancy: Do the Zetas have any comments about the radio and television interference caused by PX that we should be expecting soon, if not already. Moreover, has anyone else noticed anything where this is concerned?
(NancyL) JohnJ, I proper images from the hardworking TEAM. The debunking team has YET to put any up. Except for IMO's Jan 5th 2002 and this was his last as it SHOWED PX :-).
(Mindoid) with the hybrids, if sex is the same and has the same potential outcome (pregnancy), but wihtout the hips necessary for birth, than wouldn't it potentially be fatal in regions where technologically advanced medical care isn't available?
(Bailey) tell me about mindoid, LOL
(Me) Q for Zetas: During rotation stoppage, wouldn't weeklong sunshine or darkness cause KILLING heat or cold on much of the earth? Would the Zetas recommend moving to the long-dawn or -dusk areas of the globe?
(NancyL) SteveB, NASA assassinations Q's declined as should not be the focus right now, with 3-4 months to go, etc.
(JohnJ) Nancy, How does one 'proper' images?
(Obany) There are far more important questions to be adressed
(NancyL) SteveB, I'm sure there are LOTS more assassinations than we comprehend, yes.
(Alankila) Me: the question is already covered by the zetas
(Alankila) the answer is "no"
(N18) Q: How the STS conduct their activities on Earth while being visible and can't be in 4rh density?
(Alankila) elaboration is that there would be enough convectivion and heat transfer to maintain life-sustaining temperatures for the period.
(KeyBoarDz) Nancy, have the zetas had 100% accuracy with predictions given you?
(NancyL) Jeremey, I just note folks trying to talk to me on the cell phone having increasing problems, but Direct TV comes though OK here, so far.
(Jeremy) Nancy: I see, thanks
(Zetapal) Question submit: The zetas have said that we should expect satellite failures months going into the shift. How close to those failures are we now? Can we expect that the results of these failures will be noticed by everyone?
(Obany) please ask serious questions please ... questions that are important to our future ... the aftertime
(Alankila) My mobile phone has performed flawlessly for what little time I've used it, though. It's not relying on satellites anyway, though.
(Secridrose) will food growing in water, such as lakes,streams etc, or by water, such as lakesides, etc be safe to consume?
(Bearz) Nancy how do you reenergize after these sessions? it must be quite draining...?
(Bailey) hips not spreading during bith is the worst way to die
(NancyL) Mindoid, if small hips due to hybrid forms, they WOULD be in high tech communities, so no worries.
(StevenB) Grissim was murdered by Nasa, We should withdraw all funding from them. And demand the Hubble pics of PX .
(HungarianGypsy) Jeremy, cable TV signals here in Asia is almost always interrupted
(NancyL) Me, the Z's have stated that air and ocean circulation keeps temps NOT that extreme.
(Anon) getting static on my FM radio at times, which is unusual
(Me) Nancy, have you had conversations with other alien groups about the shift? If so, what do they say about it? Thanks for first answer.
(NancyL) N18, STS live on the dark side of the Moon, for instance, and visit at night, presumably, those humans who Call them.
(ZooSpecimen) do zeta's meditate? how, why and how often? do they think humans can benifit from meditaion? that is their advise on meditation?
(NancyL) Key, I've not EVER found the Z's wrong, this is correct.
(Mugada) Nancy, how far from the sun will PX be visible in day time veiwing
(AGreenspan) Dancing with the Zeta part I: You say humans is limited by their genetic makeup - please explain the Enlightened individual in the context of your statement.
(AGreenspan) Dancing with the Z's part II: You claim a program has been in effect to make humans comfortable with the idea of EBE's - why would such a program take place if our social structure will disintegrate within months, and 90% of us are not going to be around in the intermediate future?
(AGreenspan) Dancing with the Z's part III: You say games should be played for the exercise not for winning. I would like to suggest to you that this understanding in in
(Smurr) Nancy, I have know about the poleshift for some time now. Florida will surely be destroyed yet I have no fear or apprehension about the coming events. Do others that know about the shift have the same feelings?
(IdolHarobed) VLF receivers are the most proper way to listen to earth. Since earth movements emmit radiation in the VLF spectrum.
(Mindoid) weren't the Z's wrong about a few things? the elections, for example?
(AGreenspan) Dancing with the Z's part III: You say games should be played for the exercise not for winning. I would like to suggest to you that this understanding in incomplete: How would one get the best exercise unless one has winning in mind? - Games SHOULD be played for the win, rather WHETHER ONE WINS OR NOT SHOULD NOT MATTER. Your comments, please, thank you.
(NancyL) Secridrose, fish don't take on lead, but they do mercury, etc. So KNOW your food harvest, do some research. Fish is a good source!
(Mansur) Nancy, can you clarify on Saturn not being visible for the naked eye?
(Anon) AGreen equals STS?
(NancyL) Zoo, Zetas don't need to meditate, they are don't have the split brains we do.
(Secridrose) ok thanks, so plants safe too?
(Bearz) Nancy what do zeta's eat?
(Okidok) The Raelians group claims they have contact with Elohim. Who are these enteties?
(NancyL) Mugda, Saturn's orbit, more or less, is when visibility starts, THAT far from the Earth.
(StevenB) Nancy , why is the Counsil of Worlds unwilling to alter the PX orbit and help 7 billion souls to continue ?
(Obany) in what kind of a manner could those who have feel they have a role at hand, in the aftertime .. helping with the transformation - be able to permorm this role in a good manner ... in the afterimte?
(AGreenspan) Don't trust my answer ahem.. Anon.. aks the Z's.
(NancyL) AGreen, they have an old soul, in touch!
(Mindoid) wait, is Nancy claiming that Saturn is not visible to the naked eye?
(Johnnie5) thez's don't eat. they soak in a nutrient bath. read the material.
(IdolHarobed) Realians says BS, they say there is no afterlife.
(Jeremy) StevenB: The passage is considered a natural astrophysical ocurrence, and this the rule of non-interference applies
(NancyL) Smurr, perhaps you plan to MOVE, last minute!
(Tekk) Would love to get Zeta's take if we've really been to the moon or not. lot of talk about it
(Smurr) No intend to stay
(Obany) Okidok: well i think that the leader of that cult never had any contact whatsoever .. with the Elohim
(N18) NancyL: So who people refer to when they say that someone was seduced by the devil?
(Mindoid) is Nancy claiming that saturn is not visible to the naked eye?
(Alankila) Tekk: Zetas have already stated that both viewpoints are true, that man has and has not been to the Moon. Specifically, part of the moon trips would have been done for real and part not, if I understood right.
(NancyL) Mindoid, they said Gore would win, and he DID, the popular election, and if Florida fraud had not STOPPED THE COUNTING so that Bush won by only 500 or so votes, he would have been Pres.
(Mansur) Mindoid: yes, she does
(Johnnie5) the z's have explained the moon landing. read the material.
(JWilliam) Mindoid: Is Saturn visible to the naked eye in daytime?
(GalacticExplorer) Hello everybody
(Zetapal) N18 - my x-wife
(NancyL) Gore was only short 3 electoral votes, before Florida, so he won BIG time.
(Mindoid) i mean the more recent elections
(IdolHarobed) Raelians believe that cloning is the way to endless life.
(GalacticExplorer) I am not late am I ?
(Mindoid) where a Democrat landslide was expcted
(StevenB) Jeremy - tw planets ocuppingthe same space and the same time is not a coincidence.
(Mindoid) but just hte opposite occurred
(NancyL) Okidok, Raelians are just BS'ing, etc.
(Obany) !kick howmo
(Franci66) What is the Zetan idea of Happiness?
(NancyL) Q from Obany re roles accepted.
(Bailey) lol Zetapal
(Tekk) Alan: ok thanks. I'll try and find that.
(IdolHarobed) Raelians also state the God does not exist.
(Zetapal) :)
(KeyBoarDz) Will 'W' be re-elected next year if does not go to war?
(Mindoid) of course Saturn isn't visible to the naked eye in daylight
(ZooSpecimen) is Jim Marrs close to the truth at all in his book, "Rule by Secrecy"?
(Mindoid) i mean at nighttime
(Obany) KeyBoarDz: check zetatalk.com ... no reelections next year .. as there will be a pole shift
(Mansur) JW: do you watch stars when daylight?
(Alankila) Tekk: use google.com for it. Add "zetatalk moon landings" to the input box and click search, should be lucky
(NancyL) Mindoid, Gore had 1/2 million more votes!
(Endeavour3d) and how would they know? Have the Raelians explored all there is to explore and found out for sure?
(StevenB) Nancy - Is Bush realy a human soul or something else ?
(Mindoid) Nancy, the 200*2* elections are what I'm referring to
(NancyL) Key, no 2004 elections, due to pole shift.
(Mindoid) as i made clear already
(Franci66) what have in common ZT and Rael Messages?
(Obany) Franci66: nothing nothing nothing
(IdolHarobed) Try www.googlism.com and search for "Bush" hehehe
(Endeavour3d) I would say.... nothing?
(JWilliam) Mansur and mindoid: go read last chat log. re Zeta comment on Saturn
(NancyL) Zoo, the rule on comment about authors, channels, is 1. do they predict, 2. are they accurate, etc. So, DOES this author?
(Tekk) Nancy: just looked over Feb issue of NEXUS, but could not find review or your video
(Okidok) SteveB David Icke says Bush is a lizard???
(NancyL) SteveB, Bush is a weak human, a puppet of others.
(Thunderoc) I suspect Bush/ enclave, may want to survive the poleshift underground in Irac...a possibuility?
(Obany) come you guys no one over here has a good and serious question or questions?
(N18) Q: Who people refer to when they say that someone was seduced by the devil?
(NancyL) Thunder, Z's have stated for the Oil, Iraq press, and planned world domination after the shift, which they underestimate in destructive force.
(Zetapal) Question submit: The zetas have said that we should expect satellite failures months going into the shift. How close to those failures are we now? Can we expect that the results of these failures will be noticed by everyone?
(NancyL) The hour is here, so I'm going to take Q1, from Obany, and start.
(StevenB) Nancy - can something be done to help Bush's IQ - He does not know what he's doing unless corrupt.
(NancyL) ZetaPal, INCREASINGLY satellites failures, was the prediction, not one day it all stops!
(NancyL) StevenB, Bush Jr. is hopeless, I'm afraid :-).
(NancyL) AFTERTIME ROLES
(NancyL) 1. In what kind of a manner could those who have feel they have a role at hand, in the aftertime .. helping with the transformation - be able to permorm this role in a good manner ... in the afterimte?
(NancyL) ZT: Many contactees, most of whom do not even KNOW they are contactees, sense they have a role to play soon.
(NancyL) ZT: We have referred to the subconscious knowledge of this, where the role might be in conflict with the contactees existing life, as timed-release information.
(NancyL) ZT: One day, the contactee notes a news cast, or hears comments made by friends, or sees the weather turn suddenly unseasonably warm, and the trigger has been switched to ON.
(NancyL) ZT: The contactee may go home and pack and take off for another country or province or state, with barely a notice given to employer or family or friends.
(NancyL) ZT: A contactee may decide that NOW is the time for that vacation, long put off, and make these arrangements putting all other priorities aside.
(NancyL) ZT: It is unlikely that a contactee would suddenly decide they need to develop a skill set, such as working with manual tools, or gardening, as if this was sensed as part of their role they would have been able to integrate this into their lifestyle earlier.
(NancyL) ZT: The changes we are talking about are ABRUPT, and DISRUPTIVE, and thus have been put off.
(NancyL) ZT: This would include divorce, or separation, from a spouse that had been convenient during the life lived prior to the trigger being switched, but which was known would NOT be possible during the Aftertime.
(NancyL) ZT: An example is a marriage where the wife is petulant, given to pampering herself with luxuries, and would not leave a setting where these luxuries were abundant even when faced with sudden death.
(NancyL) ZT: The husband, in this marriage the strong person, a parent to the wife in essence, determines he has a role to play in helping survivors, and LEAVES the wife rather than die with her, as he knows he cannot force her to move to safey.
(NancyL) ZT: This of course might be on the other foot, with a caring and strongly STO wife taking the children to safety a few weeks ahead of the shift, and simply refusing to return, giving the shocked husband divorce notice from afar.
(NancyL) ZT: He then has the choice of leaving the golf course, the executive club, his mistress, or whatever else holds him to his place, or staying.
(NancyL) ZT: He would in any case have to make this choice, but the wife has made HER choice for herself and the children.
(NancyL) ZT: Where a role is not in conflict with the person's existing life, it is likely to be expressed early, as soon as realized.
(NancyL) ZT: Where in conflict, such as a military person who has determined to PREVENT blockades, keeping the poor or minority populations trapped in cities during the last hours, realization of their role might come at the VERY last minute.
(NancyL) ZT: The reasons are obvious: if the military individual were to CONSCIOUSLY realize this earlier, he or she would give their plans away, and prevent the role from happening!
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, those in such double identity binds often have a HARD denial of their contactee role.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, there is no simply statement that can be made about contactee roles, and when the contactee will become aware of their chosen role.
(NancyL) ZT: It depends: on the contactee, their life situation, the culture they live in, and an endless number of factors.
(NancyL) End ZT on this Q, followup?
(Gyflex) do all contactees, although they do not know that they are contactees, know in some way or sense the pending earth changes/pole shift?
(GalacticExplorer) Zetas also talked about change inside the pesron, what kind of change is it? People become more aware of their surroundings? Do Zetas change humans to better play their roles?
(Rstefdc) my wife Thessa just quit "cold-turkey" her pricey programming job and jumped full immersion into studying herbs and natural therapies..... could this be a tell-tale of a contactee?
(Smurr) Nancy I understand now, thanks
(AGreenspan) She didn't explain this to you, Rstefdc..carefull... you may be left behind
(NancyL) ZT to Gyflex: Contactees give the Call for many reasons, most often NOT related to the pending shift or current Earth changes.
(Mindoid) Nancy, please address my correction of your misreading re the 2002 elections, or I may just have to begin believing these attacks against you calling you a spin-doctor and a misleader
(Mansur) Nancy, According to IMO it should be 33000 times brighter by noow. So why can´t we see it yet?
(NancyL) ZT: If the issue of the pole shift does not come up in the context of the Call, it is not discussed.
(EcclesP) Edgar Cayce said that Saturn influenced our lives in sudden, extreme ways. Is Saturn's current proximity to Earth helping influence theses subconscious changes that are occurring in people?
(Puncivitez) Nancy... Can you say anything about Robert Bruce???
(Franci66) why does Bush need Iraq's oil after PS? He can't use it.
(NancyL) ZT: Contactees to ourselves, the STO Zetas, are concerned with helping others in their family, their neighborhood, the world at large such as how to decease pollution.
(Tekk) how long after the shift will the places projected to be flooded be inundated?
(NancyL) ZT: The Call is answered in this context, but if the contactee, for instance, is concerned with pollution increases, the Bush Administrations endless allowance of this in the face of what is presumably Global Warming gone wild, the shift comes up.
(NancyL) ZT: Why would it not? The REAL reason for the Bush Administrations casual handling of pollution is their knowledge of the shift, and the only way to explain their behavior is to explain what is coming.
(NancyL) ZT: If the contactee has given the Call because they are in agony over a sick child, their future, the range of options on how they can help this child goes BEYOND nutrition and medical options, as early death may in any case be the outcome!
(NancyL) ZT: This is explained to the parents, who are in agony about how to proceed, such that they can determine how to make the child's last days more joyful, a growth experience, a time of love, not pain in the hospital.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, there are many opportunites where the shift comes into a discussion even if the base REASON for the Call was not related.
(NancyL) ZT: However, increasingly, the Call is given by those sensing something very wrong, seeing their neighbors being laid off by an economy gone sour world wide, where the establishment only want to increasingly harbor and shelter the rich, turning their back on the poor and starving.
(NancyL) ZT: They see Earth changes affecting the local farmers, with no mention of this in the news!
(NancyL) ZT: They see odd behavior in anmimals and insects, the weather going so odd as to make the next year utterly unpredictable, yet the news carries anything BUT these changes as a focus, as though they did not exist.
(NancyL) ZT: So their question is, being a STO Call, how can they help their neighbors, the local farmers, and what to do about the course of society that so many depend upon when it seems to be a ship without a captain?
(NancyL) ZT: This leads of course to discussion of the shift, as an explanation not only of what HAS happened but also as an explanation of what to DO, in future, to help others.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, it is the exception where a Call does NOT involve discussion of the pending shift, but it is not a ROUTINE part of a Call to inform the contactee about the shift.
(NancyL) ZT: The Call is GIVEN by a contactee for HIS or HER reasons, and any agenda the visitors responding to the Call might have is incidental.
(NancyL) ZT: For those visitors in the STS responding to a Call to them, for selfish reasons, it is unlikely the shift would come up for discussion, as the STS like to have the maximum amount of hopelessness and shock occur, as this increases the leaning toward the STS orientation, thinkong about the self rather than others.
(NancyL) ZT: Deception, the double-cross, anger and a sense of abandonment, are all tools they use to INCREASE their harvest.
(NancyL) ZT: This is one reason so many in the establishment are so SURE there will not be a shift, so SURE they were safe digging into bunkers that would become underground tombs, so SURE they could get away to Mars, etc.
(NancyL) ZT: They have been given the wrong message, the wrong information, and are arrogantly sure they are in contact with the most POWERFUL and PRESTIGIOUS aliens, unlike the silly tree hugging Green Movement contactees, or those trying to help children in the slums.
(NancyL) ZT: Watch the faces of those in the establishment who are arrogantly sure they will come out on top, when they realize they have been LIED to!
(NancyL) ZT: True karma, during their lifetime, for these individuals who were thinking NOT of those they had sworn to protect, but of themselves!
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter, followup?
(Walt2525) Would buying gold be a way to guarantee being able to make a last minute move? I.E. War and Economic collapse increases gold's value so one has flexibility.
(Thunderoc) To date, the stock market has held together through manpulation by the mutual fund managers, etc..Will this artificial 'holding up' of the stock market break suddenly..and when might this occur? Should we all divest our Retirement funds now or will there be an unmistakable sign the stock market crash is very near?
(Attila) what about Nibiruan council?
(Bailey) thanks Nancy ZT
(Attila) is Nibiru a starship?
(Attila) Thanks Nancy
(GayFDoe) her discussion helped me out so much
(Attila) Thanks Zetas
(Obany) Attita: not true, .. and Nibiru is no starship already has been adressed
(Jeremy) Walt2525: Sorry, your Question is not related to the followup..
(NancyL) Walk, value of gold will be worthless like money. We are NOT giving advise to those hugging their money, in whatever form.
(GayFDoe) its been what i was thinking about for the past week
(NancyL) Buy seed, tools, land, tends, etc.
(StevenB) Nancy - Can the Zeta's comment on what the object is that is orbiting Saturn since 1947 that is not natural and not man made ?
(Thunderoc) Nibiru IS Planet X..
(GayFDoe) she completely answered most of my confusing question
(Rstefdc) will Vesuvius volcano start its activity soon, like Stromboli and Etna?
(Franci66) It's incredible how can we have all these crop shortages, deluges and droughts, and still the food shops be still full of stuff, in Europe at least...
(Attila) is it sure Reptilians want to control humanity?
(Jeremy) Please keep follow up questions related to the ZTs previous response.
(Attila) Thanks Nancy
(GayFDoe) i work at a foodmarket and i ask myself that every time i fill the shelves
(AGreenspan) Now..the question is why a temporary condition,such as fear or anger cause orientation decision, rather then temporary inclination?
(GayFDoe) how could there still be all this food if there are food shortages?
(NancyL) SteveB, what object? Says who? Q declined if no accuracy available.
(Obany) Attila: no reptilian control
(NancyL) Accepting Thunder's Q on the Market ...
(Obany) Attila: read ZT it's in there
(NancyL) ECONOMY
(NancyL) 1. To date, the stock market has held together through manpulation by the mutual fund managers, etc..Will this artificial 'holding up' of the stock market break suddenly..and when might this occur? Should we all divest our Retirement funds now or will there be an unmistakable sign the stock market crash is very near
(NancyL) ZT: We predicted some months ago, toward the middle of 2002, when the Stock Market swings were extreme from day to day, that the brakes had been lost and the Market could colapse suddenly.
(NancyL) ZT: There are many forms for these brakes to take, and following that July dip, the market has held steady in spite of NOTHING but bad indicators, worldwide.
(NancyL) ZT: How is this happening, when layoffs continue, bankruptcies continue, public confidence low and buying at a virtual standstill
(NancyL) ZT: Disasters such as planes dropping from the sky, decreasing use of the air for travel, train derailments, increasing business and insurance losses, and increasing illness.
(NancyL) ZT: Whole cruise ships get ill, and pull into port in an attempt to sterilize the ship.
(NancyL) ZT: Miliary bases take sick, with common illnesses such as Strep Throat.
(NancyL) ZT: NO country is leading as the engine to pull the world out of what is now being termed a recession, but which in fact is a depression, akin to 1929.
(NancyL) ZT: Starvation is rampant worldwide, in countries already affected but where new, not announced in the media.
(NancyL) ZT: Immigration is a concern of countries deemed strong, such as the US and Australia, so that repressing immigration has become brutal.
(NancyL) ZT: How can it be, then, that the US Stock Market is RISING, or stays steady, during increasing problems?
(NancyL) ZT: Each quarter, the projections are made such that the NEXT will do better, indicators high, the trends turning about!
(NancyL) ZT: These are false indicators, but who would know this? How many are privy to the facts from which such pronouncments are made?
(NancyL) ZT: It was stated that the 2002 Christmas season would be a boon for retailers, but only when Christmas was upon them did they announce the results, a BUST.
(NancyL) ZT: It is now being announced that many business are starting to refurbish their inventories, and how many in the general public are privy to this information?
(NancyL) ZT: Each factory worker knows that inventory is down, and NO plans to refurbish, and layoffs planned, but assume this is just THEIR company, THEIR industry, THEIR locale.
(NancyL) ZT: This is not more true than the rosy Christmas shopping projections, but the truth will be delayed for months, if possible.
(NancyL) ZT: In the US, insurance was increased, to be backed by the US government in cases where terrorism is involved.
(NancyL) ZT: Likewise, the Bush Administration is BRIBING Wall Street, by promising and pushing for such legislation that the wealthy individuals, the public in general, would RUSH to buy stocks!
(NancyL) ZT: NO double taxation of profits! Stocks the BEST buy for all!
(NancyL) ZT: In analysis of the impact, this does zero for the economy, as funds would NOT go to those who could make purchases, the profits delayed for at least a quarter, but Wall Street would be awash in eager buyers!
(NancyL) ZT: The effect? Analysts, the money managers who do NOT sell when they think they ought, like the good little go-alongs they are, are being REWARDED.
(NancyL) ZT: As this is in the hands of man, it cannot be predicted with certainty how this will play out.
(NancyL) ZT: Stocks now are being held up by the money managers who are under DIRECTIVES not to sell, at threat of loss of jobs or worse.
(NancyL) ZT: What will be the trigger bringing this house of cards down?
(NancyL) ZT: It most likely will be Earth changes affecting corporations that need to access their funds, such as a subsidiary affected by a quake needing rescue.
(NancyL) ZT: A warehouse collapsed, the inventory needing to be extracted and moved, key employees needing relocation.
(NancyL) ZT: The Board of Directors looks over the situation, and the only source of funds is their stock portfolio, and they SELL!
(NancyL) ZT: Multiply this several thousand times, and a panic of selling could occur.
(NancyL) ZT: This can be stopped, the Market closed, but this is an obvious move.
(NancyL) ZT: We have predicted some years ago, in late 1999, that price fixing, a freeze, might occur.
(NancyL) ZT: But if the Earth changes are wide spread, across the West and East coasts of the US and Canada, for instance, affecting simultaneously the UK and western Europe, as well as Japan, this might be out of control.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, is it not manmade hapenstance that will creat the panic, but the Earth changes that will not STOP, that could.
(NancyL) End ZT on this, followup?
(Mike-O) In the U.S., the Christmas season is now called the 'holiday season'. In our country, the word 'Christmas' is virtually banned.
(Tekk) a person can get a truer picture of reality from news sources outside the US, such as News World Intl.
(GalacticExplorer) Zetas also talked about change inside the pesron, what kind of change is it? People become more aware of their surroundings? Do Zetas change humans to better play their roles?
(StevenB) Nancy - Correction it is in Jupiter's orbit - over 2000 miles long - photographed by Hubble telescope.
(Nightbird) Gay, there is a link at Queen's website about 14 million people facing starvation in Africa.. no food shortage? http://www.examiner.ie/pport/web/opinion/Full_Story/did-sgsbK7H1T7LxU.asp
(Lightspeed) Corruption was never so high as today, on all over the world :((
(AGreenspan) Why are you jumping on essentially trivial questions, and not responding to valid ones? (If they are not valid - show me why please)
(Thunderoc) So it is the proverbial 'straw' that will break this camels's back... Thank You Nancy and ZT's !
(Tom) hi
(HungarianGypsy) Nancy how are Germany's plans re the shift affected now that its economy is in the doldrums, now being considered as "the sick man of Europe"?
(NancyL) Galactic, the Call is initiated by the human, and the human is NOT changed except as they initiate this change in themselves.
(Tom) When exactly is Planet-X going to come by
(NancyL) SteveB, if NASA is telling you what the Hubble sees, they LIE, all the time.
(GalacticExplorer) Ok. Thank you Nancy.
(NancyL) If this is the only source, they we cannot count on any truth.
(Tekk) how many hours or days will a person have to get out of a projected flooded area after the shift occurs/
(Tom) Nancy I have a question? When are you going to be on Art Bell again?
(Nightbird) Art Bell retired
(StevenB) NASA is not telling about it at all.
(NancyL) AGreen, valid Q is in the mind of the beholder.
(Mansur) Nancy, you have talked about everything but PX´s visibilty in the sky. I think people here deserves an explanation from you.
(Tom) George Norry sorry:)
(StevenB) Thats why we want to know.
(AGreenspan) Show me why ...
(ZooSpecimen) do you have a URL StevenB?
(Norne) if the elite want to go ot mars, why doesn't the council just let them do it and say "good riddance!"
(NancyL) Hungarian, Germany will fare as explained in Safe Locations. ALL economies will die, barter being the mode, etc.
(Jeremy) Norne: thats a fair point actually, I've thought that in the past
(Redeye) Mansur have u not been present on the countless IRC chats regarding this !?
(NancyL) Tekk, read the Safe Location doc (link on home page under the Zeta face) for this.
(Walt2525) Bush did not heed Russia's warning on Iraq. What is Russia planning to do to make their feelings clearer? Is N. Korea still just posturing?
(Tekk) thank you
(NancyL) If along the coast lines, then HOURS, if inland where polar melt will affect you, 2 years to max out.
(Mansur) Redeye: I indeeed have
(Jeremy) Norne: Though the elite don't have the capability to escape to Mars. They just have high hopes.
(Tom) Is Planet-X still scheduled to come by in May?
(Tekk) how bout mid Mississippi Valley?
(AGreenspan) Explain please why mere months before the end of the world, a question on the feakin' Stock Market is valid?
(NancyL) Tom, George Noory said he would have me back on May 15, 2003 to explain why I was wrong :-). I expect sooner but no date as yet.
(Obany) for those who have questions, there are so many questions already adressed on ZT if you ask a question then try to answer one that has not already been adressed
(Tekk) hopefully time enough to construct a houseboat!
(Tom) Thank You Nancy
(Mansur) Obany: What about PX´s visibilty in the sky?
(NancyL) However, on Lou Gentile Feb 29th, and an Arkansas morning radio show Feb 4th (8-10 AM central for us both)
(Humvee) latest PX pictures are just blurs judging by the BMP images - when will be close enough to image?
(Thunderoc) A Greenspan.. perhaps to carve out a small safe retreat by those whom have money in retirement portfolio's?
(AGreenspan) I tell you..I'm going to keep torturing you with my Q's - better have you aspirin at hand
(Norne) was Tolkien a Star Child?
(Obany) !kick mansur you know why ...
(Lightspeed) walt: China is behind NKorea, and all what Bush wants is such a conflict to go into war against china. Afghanistan needed for Bush for an outpost
(NancyL) Walt, re Iraq and Russia and Korea, no change, but sure is an active front!
(MrOdd) Nancy, when will your concience catch up to you and finally make you stop this nonsense? I must imagine it pains you to continue this nonsense, as you surely have SOME fiber of morality still running in you. You could just walk away from it all, and that is what you must do. The outcome wouldn't be nearly as bad as what's coming after the "great awakening" of your members sure to come in may. Please, I implore you, you must desist.
(Johnnie5) wow
(Walt2525) Thank you
(NancyL) AGreen, save your aspirin for youself! You will soon need it!
(StevenB) Nancy - What is the Zeta's strongest goal to acomplish ?
(AGreenspan) And why, if I may ask?
(Mansur) Humvee: it should bee 33000 times brighter by now
(NancyL) MrOdd, cool it :-) You are WAY wrong.
(Norne) heh, booze and pot might be needed as valuable painkillers
(Jurian) AGreenspan: cause the zeta's will have lightening strike you, of course
(Humvee) kick Odd
(NancyL) Here comes the debunkers, at the end of the hour.
(Franci66) why does Bush need Iraq's oil after PS? He can't use it.
(AGreenspan) You think, J. an aspirin will cure that?
(Earth420) Is there any progress being made that a authority figure will speak out about the pole shift?
(GayFDoe) debunkers... huh?
(Bailey) Nancy thank you for making me think
(Zetapal) The itchy and scratchy show
(Obany) !kick MrOdd
(Rudy_Joe) Thanks for another interesting session.
(Rinoa) the paid by NASA debunkers - lol
(IdolHarobed) bye Nancy!
(MrOdd) ha, i wish i was paid
(NancyL) Interesting to note that Jim Scotti was under the assumption, made the statement, that PX per the ZETAS should be 1. larger than Saturn, 2. at Saturn's orbit.
(MrOdd) Nancy, please.
(Cybervviz) Q: Why would humans prefer to inhabet hybrid bodies, due those hybrid bodies are weaker and UNNATURAL to make children die their small hips ? there is no advantage
(Mansur) Obany the great KICKER!
(Obany) !addtimedban MrOdd 180 laters
(Humvee) Noah - had a feww naysayers 2
(Bailey) this stuff was in my blood long before Nancy came along
(GayFDoe) the impossible is more possible than once thought.
(HungarianGypsy) who's Jim Scotti? :)
(Obany) !addtimedban mansur 400 laters
(GayFDoe) me too
(NancyL) The debunker masters are sending WRONG info to these folks, their faltering management showing big time!
(GayFDoe) and i am very young
(StevenB) Nancy - So they know not of the Jupiter object ??
(Mike-O) Scotti pretty much admitted this week on Sci.Astro that Nibiru exists.
(Norne) right. why would the zetas want to return to their animal urges with the hybrid program? arent they preparing for the discarnate and purely mental 5th density?
(Spiff1) Nancy: Do think the new image will convince the masses?
(GayFDoe) i read the other day they discovered another moon of Jupitor
(Tom) Nancy is Planet-X predicted in the revelations in the Bible?
(Earth420) It debunks the debunkers when they have to go through all of this trouble, along with their debunker web addresses
(Rinoa) yeah right Mike O
(NancyL) Earth420, this is hands of man, someone speaking out and revealing the truth, and I expect YES, but so uncertain as hands of man, etc.
(Rinoa) what disinformation from the Zeta followers
(Jurian) StevenB: obviously, some NASA employee got bored and photoshopped the object together, remember, NASA *ALWAYS* lies
(Jurian) Grin
(GayFDoe) yes, this was mentioned in the Bible
(NancyL) Mike-O, could you send me this posting? of Scotti's? Appreciate it.
(Obany) !kick rinoa
(Nightbird) Tom.. see Revalations 8:10... "Wormwood"
(GayFDoe) i don't know exact quotes, but i have heard of such things.
(Tom) thank you
(StevenB) NASA is hiding it Jurian , not revealing it.
(Mike-O) Nancy, it's the part where the Zeta's tell Scotti he "qualified" his answer.
(NancyL) MikeO, use the Contact Nancy web link as zetatalk@zetatalk.com is clogged always.
(Earth420) Nancy, if the future is in the hands of man, than let us do great.
(Bailey) there is so much of this in the Bible
(Humvee) spiff hav u looked at BMP images?
(Jurian) StevenB: heh, I know, I was being sarcastic :p
(Bailey) the earth shifted off its axis
(NancyL) MikeO, ah!
(Cybervviz) Q2 - Why would humans merge with Zetans, if the Pleiedeans have a better merger option (they have perfect bodies) ?
(GayFDoe) my email is MasterE123@aol.com
(Spiff1) Humvee: Yes I couln't see anything new
(GayFDoe) anyway...
(Longint) Cybervviz: butt lesser IQ :)
(Bailey) I especialy like Ezekiel chap 4 survival tips
(NancyL) Well folks, its the hour, and I tire. Thank you all for attending and inspiring great ZT!
(Ptomais) bad idea spreading your email adress
(Spanky) maybe a human/Plieadean hybrid project would be like inbreeding, since we are so alike
(NancyL) Thanks to our loyal and hard working cops, keeping the mob in line and well behaved!
(NancyL) Bye all!
(Attila) Why Coes movie will be at March 28th?
(Tom) You will be famous when Planet-X comes
(Me) Thanks, Nancy.
Session Close: Sat Jan 11 17:12:25 2003